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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Help translating birth record Reply with quote

This is a little different from the birth records I've seen. I find the handwriting very difficult to read. The names of the child's grandparent may be listed but I am not certain. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Help translating birth record Reply with quote

L'anno 1867 il giorno 19 Gennaio in Belmonte nella casa Comunale alle ore 4 p.m.
Dinanzi a me Salvatore Cappello assessore funzionante da Sindaco di questo Comune di Belmonte ed Uffiziale dello Stato Civile, Provincia e Circondario di Palermo, è comparso Gaetano Monte del fu Rosario di anni 36, villico, nato e domiciliato in questo quartiere Burvatoio(?) il quale ha presentato un bambino di sesso maschile, dichiarando di esser nato il giorno 18 Gennaio alle ore 2 a.m. dalla di lui moglie Teresa Santangelo del fu Salvatore di anni 35, nata e domiciliata in questo [Comune], e nella casa di loro abitazione sita come sopra, e di avergli imposto il nome di Giuseppe.
La quale dichiarazione è stata fatta alla presenza di Paolo Greco del fu ... di anni 46, villico, nato e domiciliato in questo [Comune], e di Giuseppe Niloni del fu Andrea di anni 42, villico, nato e domiciliato quivi, testimoni scelti dal dichiarante, il quale dopo aver avuto lettura del presente processo verbale steso contemporaneamente su due registri originali, si è firmato da me, avendo il dichiarante, ed i testimoni dichiarato di non saper scrivere.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Help translating birth record Reply with quote

Luca, you are incredibly fast! So was this communicated verbally because Gaetano couldn't write? Also does this mean Gaetano was not born in Belmonte: nato e domiciliato in questo quartiere Burvatoio?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Help translating birth record Reply with quote

Luca wrote:
L'anno 1867 il giorno 19 Gennaio in Belmonte nella casa Comunale alle ore 4 p.m.
Dinanzi a me Salvatore Cappello assessore funzionante da Sindaco di questo Comune di Belmonte ed Uffiziale dello Stato Civile, Provincia e Circondario di Palermo, è comparso Gaetano Monte del fu Rosario di anni 36, villico, nato e domiciliato in questo quartiere Burvatoio(?) il quale ha presentato un bambino di sesso maschile, dichiarando di esser nato il giorno 18 Gennaio alle ore 2 a.m. dalla di lui moglie Teresa Santangelo del fu Salvatore di anni 35, nata e domiciliata in questo [Comune], e nella casa di loro abitazione sita come sopra, e di avergli imposto il nome di Giuseppe.
La quale dichiarazione è stata fatta alla presenza di Paolo Greco del fu ... di anni 46, villico, nato e domiciliato in questo [Comune], e di Giuseppe Niloni del fu Andrea di anni 42, villico, nato e domiciliato quivi, testimoni scelti dal dichiarante, il quale dopo aver avuto lettura del presente processo verbale steso contemporaneamente su due registri originali, si è firmato da me, avendo il dichiarante, ed i testimoni dichiarato di non saper scrivere.

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The year 1867 on the day of 19th January in the house of the Comune at 4pm
Before me Salvatore Cappello working councillor of the Mayor of this Comune of
Belmonte and Officiale of the Registrars Office, for the Province and Districts of Palermo, did appear Gaetano Monte of the late Rosario aged 36, villager, born and living in this quarter of Burvatoio(?) and who presented a child of the male sex, declaring to have been born on the 18th January at 2am to his wife Teresa Santangelo of the late Salvatore aged 35, born and living in this Comune, and in the house of their occupation sited as above, and to have given him the name of Giuseppe.

The said declaration was made in the presence of Paolo Greco of the late... aged 46, villager, born and living in this Comue, and of Giuseppe Niloni of the late Andrea aged 42, born and living in this place, witnesses chosen by the declarer, who after having read of the present verbal proceedings spread out at the same time on two original, registers, was signed by me, the declarer, and the witnesses having declared to be unable to write.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Help translating birth record Reply with quote

tjbrn wrote:
...So was this communicated verbally because Gaetano couldn't write? Also does this mean Gaetano was not born in Belmonte: nato e domiciliato in questo quartiere Burvatoio?

I think Carole's translation can reply to your questions. If not everything is clear I'll try to explane it.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Help translating birth record Reply with quote

Thanks Carole. As always, the teamwork of Carole and Luca, makes this process for us beginners so much easier! I am still curious about the meaning of "Burvatoio"; perhaps, I should let sleeping dogs lie.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Help translating birth record Reply with quote

It says the 'quartiere' (district) of Burvatoio. So it might be like the 'contrada's' in Tuscany but smaller!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: Help translating birth record Reply with quote

here is the marriage certificate from St Anthony of Padua in Chester, PA that I discovered as a result of the transcription Riccardo found in the records in Trapani. This document also provides baptismal information of the couple being wed, the churches where baptized (I have tried to ascertain if they still exist), and some additional names, which I am unable to make out--Salvatore ....



I also found the baptismal record of the couple's first child. I can't make out the names of the godparents on this doc.




The images may be a bit large. Imageshack has a note about not using the direct link option that I have always used previously.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Help translating birth record Reply with quote

In the first doc: Ciambellano Salvatore and Salvo Natale (I don't know if Salvo was the name or the surname!)
In the second: Ciambellano Salvatore and Antonina Ciambellano

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Help translating birth record Reply with quote

Thanks, Luca. It makes perfect sense once you've written it out for me!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:50 am    Post subject: Re: Help translating birth record Reply with quote

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"The images may be a bit large. Imageshack has a note about not using the direct link option that I have always used previously."

I noticed that too Tom. But on the line immediately above that notice in red you will find the same 'direct link'. I now use that one!

I also have the Image Shack 'tool bar' which gives me rapid access to anything by using a 'right click' on my mouse - that access doesn't have that 'red warning' at all!

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