What does this mean?

Vincenza · V.I.P. Joined: Jul 11, 2007 Posts: 354 Location: Michigan

I went to this website, but I'm not sure what this means
"Autocertificazioni"
any ideas?

www.comune.carini.pa.i...tocert.asp

Autocertificazioni

Carole · Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: What does this mean?

It is an electronic system via the internet where a person or a family can request a certificate electronically and print it out without the need to go in person to the comune offices, get in a queue, and fill out a paper form - and then get back in another queue to hand it in!

As you can see from the list, many certificates can be requested in this way. It is a real time saver...

Edited for correction to information. CB

Vincenza · V.I.P. Joined: Jul 11, 2007 Posts: 354 Location: Michigan

hi carole,

So you are saying that I can request for my certificate that I need. Birth death but I didn't see marriage, right.

Vincenza · V.I.P. Joined: Jul 11, 2007 Posts: 354 Location: Michigan

Cognome: Last name

Nome: First Name

Sesso: Male or female

Nato/a a: What does is mean?

Provincia: Province

Data Nascita: Date of birth
(gg/mm/aa)

Poipu04 · Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: What does this mean?

Nato a: means born in

Nato refers to the masculine and nata refers to the feminine

liviomoreno · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:41 am Post subject: Re: What does this mean?

Autocertificazione is a self declaration that you may present to local or national government instead of a number of certificates (acts). Many municipalities, included the Comune of Carini, provide an help to produce the form electronically.
You still need to print it out, sign it and present it to the entity that requires it.
You may also send it together with a copy of an id document.

lilbees · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: Re: What does this mean?

Could this form be used with other communes outside the area specified? If that is so this could help in requesting acts from a commune I need that is not on their list?

Fingers crossed.

liviomoreno · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:11 am Post subject: Re: What does this mean?

lilbees wrote:

Could this form be used with other communes outside the area specified? If that is so this could help in requesting acts from a commune I need that is not on their list?

Fingers crossed.

Every commune, local o central government office is obliged to accept an autocertificazione.
But you must be Italian...

lilbees · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: Re: What does this mean?

Great! I certainly am Italian. My married name does not reflect that but my maiden name certainly does. When I fill out the form I will use my maiden name in addition to my married name.

Would this be correct or confusing?

Carole · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: What does this mean?

Vincenza wrote:

hi carole,

So you are saying that I can request for my certificate that I need. Birth death but I didn't see marriage, right.

Listed on this comune are:

• Atto di Notorietà Attested affidavit
• Atto di Nascita Birth certificate
• Atto di Residenza Residency
• Atto di Cittadinanza Citizenship
• Atto di Godimento dei Diritti Politici Possession of political rights
• Atto di Stato di Famiglia Family status
• Atto di Esistenza in Vita Proof of being alive.
• Atto di Nascita Figlio Birth act of a child
• Atto di Morte Death Certificate

However I'm not at all sure that many of the 'older' registrations, of interest to genealogists, would be available via this fairly modern electronic system. I would imagine they would need to be transcribed first - and therefore would be low on the list of priorities for any comune.

lilbees · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: What does this mean?

If the requests are in Italian they wouldn't need to be translated would they?

liviomoreno · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: What does this mean?

lilbees wrote:

If the requests are in Italian they wouldn't need to be translated would they?

Is it possible to know what are you planning to do?
I think there is still some misunderstanding. Let me try to make an example:
If you need to enroll your child to a school, let's say in Carini, you are required to be resident in Carini, and the school will ask for a Residency certificate; instead of going to the municipality and ask for the Residency certificate, you may write down a self declaration (Autocertificazione), where you state, with reference to the law D.P.R. n. 445 del 28/12/2000, that you are resident in Carini. In Internet you may find several forms that you may compile on line and then print them and sign them.

Carole wrote:

However I'm not at all sure that many of the 'older' registrations, of interest to genealogists, would be available via this fairly modern electronic system.

Again, this is a self-declaration about something related to yourself (nothing to do with a modern electronic system) and I do not see how it can be used by genealogists...

lilbees · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: What does this mean?

Thank you for clarifying this. Sometime I am a little dense. Just not a good day I guess.

Embarassed

liviomoreno · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: What does this mean?