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Brides fathers name
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Aether Researcher
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Brides fathers name |
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Cathy,
Is Montalto Uffugo also an area of arberesh tradition? I noticed that one witness is PAPA Giuseppe.
Have you any information on the local traditions? Religion, language?
It is a subject of interest to me, new studies by UCAL researchers are covering several comunes of the Province of Cosenza.
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Brides fathers name |
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The next town over from Montalto Uffugo is San Benedetto Ullano. Around the time the State Civil records began San Benedetto was a hamlet of Montalto Uffugo and they became their own comune in the early 1800's. San Benedetto is an Abereshe comune. Many of the people from the 2 towns inter-married so I am sure the Aberesh culture was alive in Montalto so many years ago. I have been searching for information on abereshe surnames because I believe my g g g grandmother (surname Rua) may have been Abereshe. So far, the only surname I have confirmed to be Abereshe in Montalto is Manes. My search continues.... There is a great site of Abereshe culture that actually has many of their notary documents here: www.members.tripod.com...shcal.html
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Carole Admin
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Brides fathers name |
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Aether wrote: |
Bride's father name? Francesco...It is clearly a "G".
I also found family names : Guiditti , Guiditto and Guiditta.
In some old documents I remember a rare masculine form "Giuditto" !
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To go 'off topic' ( sort of) for a moment.... Aether, may I ask if the name of Giuditti, or any combination of that, may have, in centuries past, been 'anglicised' to whiddett?
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nuccia Admin
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: Brides fathers name |
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Carole wrote: |
Aether wrote: |
Bride's father name? Francesco...It is clearly a "G".
I also found family names : Guiditti , Guiditto and Guiditta.
In some old documents I remember a rare masculine form "Giuditto" !
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I'm going to flaunt my for a moment here...
To go 'off topic' (sort of) for a moment.... Aether, may I ask if the name of Giuditti, or any combination of that, may have, in centuries past, been 'anglicised' to whiddett? |
That a girl Carole! Nice way to sneak a little bit of your own research in here..lol I would love to know the answer as well.
Giuditto, Giuditta...a very popular name in Reggio Calabria communes. I have found several.
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Aether Researcher
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: Brides fathers name |
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Nuccia,
I am glad others could also read the name, I was not sure I had read it right!
Now about Whiddett, it will require more research. It seems that is a variation of Huguenot Flemish name. Many families moved to England and Wales, later to the colonies, and the name may have been changed.
The double consonants may indicate a Welsh variation. Families with said names are also in Wells. There is a Wells History Group studying the families.
In Canada I would check Acadia, and in the States and Canada areas where Calvinists settled.
Internet lists several sites for migration of Whiddett families. Can't open.
How important is it? It will require much more research, i.e. check in Belgium= Walloon, and in Holland. Anybody with old French , Walloon and Dutch?
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Brides fathers name |
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Cathy,
Have you checked Lungro? I have some notes in another house, will check next time I go there. In Rende I would check with a group doing a lot of research in Cosenza . I wish I could stay there some 6 months. Fabulous grad. program combining religion, language , traditions and music!
Will let you what I may find on surnames.
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Carole Admin
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Brides fathers name |
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"....How important is it? It will require much more research, i.e. check in Belgium= Walloon, and in Holland. Anybody with old French , Walloon and Dutch? "
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Oh no - it's not that important at all. It's just that for some time I have thought that the pronunciation of Guidetti might have preceded an English version which sounded similar. It's not something I need to pursue, but I thought that your knowledge in this field may have been able to throw some light on my curiosity.
My apologies to the thread owner for this brief incursion...
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Brides fathers name |
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Carole,
It was not too brief for me - just 2 hours. I do not specialize in Walloon! Had to check several Huguenot- Flemish sites!
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: Brides fathers name |
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Carole wrote: |
My apologies to the thread owner for this brief incursion... |
No feel free, this is interesting for me and an opportunity for everyone on the forum to learn something new.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Brides fathers name |
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:?: Hi...My mother was born in san cosmo albanese in Calabria. Her family name from her father's side is petrone. Not sure if it traces to albania |
Woo Hoo! Another Cosenza girl! Welcome to the forum!! Do you know the surname on her mother's side? Is there anything we can help you with?
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Brides fathers name |
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Hi Cookie..............you don't happen to have relatives in Chicago named Petrone do you?? (by chance)
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