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DonnaPellegrin Mem
Joined: Feb 02, 2009 Posts: 66
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:48 am Post subject: Lullabies from Calabria |
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Hi again, everyone, and thank you so much for the warm welcome to the site. I really enjoy being here.
I am currently looking for Calabrese lullabies to include in my family history book. I know that they won't be exactly the same lullabies that my ancestors used but I would like to include one or two lullabies in my book as typical examples. I found these three lullabies in a book that I have, and I was hoping that someone here could help me translate them into either standard Italian or English. Also, I would love to know if anyone here has heard these or similar lullabies in Calabria.
1st
Ndi e ndi e nda
chistu è lu bellu
de mamma sa (sua).
O ninna nanna o ninna ninna nonna
a vera mamma tua è dra Madonna
2nd
Veniti suonni e nommu addimurati
ca lu zitiedu miu me l'addurmiti
3rd
Bambinuzzu supa alla cascia
veni Maria, ti pigghia e t'infascia
e ti duna dolci ninnella
duormi duormi facciuzza bella.
Thanks so much!
Donna
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Cathy V.I.P.
Joined: Jul 10, 2007 Posts: 2681
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Lullabies from Calabria |
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My grandmother's cousin used to sing old local Calabrese lullabies and songs. I wish I had recorded her singing them! She had such a sweet voice. These do not look familiar to me though. Sorry.
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liviomoreno V.I.P.
Joined: Sep 08, 2007 Posts: 1140 Location: Rome (Italy)
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Lullabies from Calabria |
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Let me try wuth the 1st
Ndi e ndi e nda (cannot be translated it's just singing)
this is the handsome
of his mother.
Oh lullaby oh lullaby grandmother
your true mother is the Holy Mother
Edited to correct the spelling of the word true
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Carole Admin
Joined: Jul 10, 2007 Posts: 1662 Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:36 am Post subject: Re: Lullabies from Calabria |
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Well - English yes, Milanes yes... Valtellinese even, but Calabrese could almost be a foreign language - but here's my attempt at No 3
The best O could come up with was.....
3rd
Bambinuzzu supa alla cascia
veni Maria, ti pigghia e t'infascia
e ti duna dolci ninnella
duormi duormi facciuzza bella.
Little baby in the stable,
Maria is coming, she'll squeeze you and swaddle you,
and she'll tell you a sweet lullaby
sleep sleep beautiful innocent babe
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uantiti Explorer
Joined: Nov 28, 2008 Posts: 356 Location: Biella (Piedmont) and Venezia/Venice, Italy
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: Lullabies from Calabria |
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I'm not Calabrian but I understand a bit:
2nd
Come sleepiness and stay here so that my baby can get asleep
In Italian would be (I hope)
Venite sonno ma per restare così il mio bambino me l'addormentate.
3rd (in Italian)
Bambinello sopra la cassa (cassapanca)
viene Maria, ti prende e ti fascia
ti dona dolci ninnenanne
dormi dormi faccina bella (or visino bello)
Ada
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Carole Admin
Joined: Jul 10, 2007 Posts: 1662 Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Lullabies from Calabria |
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Thanks Ada,
Well - I didn't do too bad (for a Brit).... I only got 90% of #3 wrong.
I'll make it as a translator yet - you see if I don't
Then again - maybe I should stick to what I know - gibberish!
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DonnaPellegrin Mem
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nuccia Admin
Joined: Jul 09, 2007 Posts: 4375 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: Lullabies from Calabria |
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Carole..at least you and Ada and Livio all tried..I am Calabrese and I couldn't even get past the ninnananna part..
Donna..are you also Calabrese? Refresh my memory here as I am a dork most of the time..(think it may be the company I have been keeping lately) *runs and hides before Mum gets me*
Note to Donna: Carole's real name is DORK VADER...
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uantiti Explorer
Joined: Nov 28, 2008 Posts: 356 Location: Biella (Piedmont) and Venezia/Venice, Italy
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:09 am Post subject: Re: Lullabies from Calabria |
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Carole wrote: |
Thanks Ada,
Well - I didn't do too bad (for a Brit).... I only got 90% of #3 wrong.
I'll make it as a translator yet - you see if I don't
Then again - maybe I should stick to what I know - gibberish! |
Hi Carol,
I couldn't belive that a Brit could understand Calabrese! For an Italian it's a bit easier. How about if I write a Piedmontese (Biellese) sentence?
A t'è pròpi 'n gamba. Ven fòra da dadarè al sufà
It looks worse than Calabrese ......but if you understand Milanese you'll get it.
Ada
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DonnaPellegrin Mem
Joined: Feb 02, 2009 Posts: 66
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: Lullabies from Calabria |
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Donna..are you also Calabrese? Refresh my memory here as I am a dork most of the time..(think it may be the company I have been keeping lately) *runs and hides before Mum gets me* |
Nuccia, Thanks for asking. I posted a bit more about my quest in my first thread back on the introductions forum. I am nothing if not organized. Keep up the good work.
Donna
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Carole Admin
Joined: Jul 10, 2007 Posts: 1662 Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Lullabies from Calabria |
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uantiti wrote: |
Carole wrote: |
Thanks Ada,
Well - I didn't do too bad (for a Brit).... I only got 90% of #3 wrong.
I'll make it as a translator yet - you see if I don't
Then again - maybe I should stick to what I know - gibberish! |
Hi Carol,
I couldn't belive that a Brit could understand Calabrese! For an Italian it's a bit easier. How about if I write a Piedmontese (Biellese) sentence?
A t'è pròpi 'n gamba. Ven fòra da dadarè al sufà
It looks worse than Calabrese ......but if you understand Milanese you'll get it.
Ada |
Tu sei proprio in gamba. Vieni fuori da dietro il divano.... Giusto????
Se ti minga capi - ti fu capi mi!!!!
Quando uno ha una personalità cosi scintillante (per non dire scema ) come la mia - gli Milanesi dicono:
"Se ghin, ghin. Se ghin nos - ciao!"
My Dork Vader banana.....
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liviomoreno V.I.P.
Joined: Sep 08, 2007 Posts: 1140 Location: Rome (Italy)
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Lullabies from Calabria |
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Carole wrote: |
... gli Milanesi dicono
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My Dork Vader banana..... |
Carole, I forgive you only beacause you posted a great dancing banana!
Next time write: i milanesi dicono
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uantiti Explorer
Joined: Nov 28, 2008 Posts: 356 Location: Biella (Piedmont) and Venezia/Venice, Italy
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Lullabies from Calabria |
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Carole wrote: |
Tu sei proprio in gamba. Vieni fuori da dietro il divano.... Giusto????
Se ti ghe minga capi - ti fu capi mi!!!!
Quando uno ha una personalità cosi scintillante (per non dire scema ) come la mia - gli Milanesi dicono:
"Se ghin, ghin. Se ghin nos - ciao!"
My Dork Vader banana..... |
Yes, that was correct! Brava! BTW I added a little word to your Milanese sentence as there was something missing .
My father was from Brescia so I understand Lombard dialects.
For the rest I agree with Livio
Ciau
Ada
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nuccia Admin
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