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Would appreciate some help with this document
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Emmy V.I.P.
Joined: Jul 11, 2007 Posts: 1000 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:59 am Post subject: Would appreciate some help with this document |
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I'm almost sure these two documents are death records relating to my ancestors I thought one related to the death of Luigi DFilippis -my GG grandfather and it gave the name of his father -GiovamBattista but I couldnt make out the mother's name (if htis is the correct document then that would give me the names of my GGGGrandparents.
I would be grateful for any help or suggestions
Emmy
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Carole Admin
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JamesBianco Researcher
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chanchisfea V.I.P.
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Luca Translator
Joined: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 695 Location: Terni - Italy
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Would appreciate some help with this document |
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chanchisfea wrote: |
...Teresa Gagliardi defunta=deceased [image #1] ....Maddalena Simeone [image #2] .... |
Not 100%, but almost sure for the first one; the 2nd it's ok.
Luca
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Emmy V.I.P.
Joined: Jul 11, 2007 Posts: 1000 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Would appreciate some help with this document |
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Thank you Carole I tried two or three times but it was just the numbers coming up and no images when I posted.
Thanks to everyone for helping with the last names
I forgot to ask if you could make out the name of the person who had died. I thought one record was for Luigi DeFilippis and the other one for Domenico De Filippis
Sorry I just cant make the image any clearer or bigger.
I'm very grateful for your help.xx
Emmy
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Emmy V.I.P.
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mary Mem
Joined: Mar 03, 2009 Posts: 77 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Would appreciate some help with this document |
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Emmy, here's my take:
Act #25, 1860
Deceased: Luigi de Filippis, age 81
Profession: peasant
Son of: Gianbattista de Filippis and Teresa Gagliardi
The rest is too blurry to figure out.
Act #15, 1859
Deceased: Domenico de Filippis, husband of Vittoria Pastore
Age: 69
Date of death: July 2
Son of the late Gianantonio and the late Maddalena Simeone
Witnesses: Michele de Filippis, 71, peasant, (can't make out the relationship), and Raffaele de Filippis, cousin, 71, landowner
Profession: landowner (plus something else I can't make out)
Mary
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Emmy V.I.P.
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:13 am Post subject: Re: Would appreciate some help with this document |
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Thanks Mary
It is definately the death record for my GGGrandfather and now I have the names of my GGGGrandparents It seems that my grandfather was named after his GGrandfather
It seems the 2nd record is not my ancestors but could be a close relative to them because my GGrandfather had a brother named Raffaele and it seemed many of the Defilippis lived in Strada del Porta in Aquafondata.
Many thanks for taking the time to have a look at the documents.
Love
God Bless
Emmy
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liviomoreno V.I.P.
Joined: Sep 08, 2007 Posts: 1140 Location: Rome (Italy)
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Would appreciate some help with this document |
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mary wrote: |
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Act #15, 1859
Deceased: Domenico de Filippis, husband of Vittoria Pastore
Age: 69
Date of death: July 2
Son of the late Gianantonio and the late Maddalena Simeone
Witnesses: Michele de Filippis, 71, peasant, (can't make out the relationship), and Raffaele de Filippis, cousin, 71, landowner
Profession: landowner (plus something else I can't make out)
Mary |
I believe it says "germano"=brother
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mary Mem
Joined: Mar 03, 2009 Posts: 77 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Would appreciate some help with this document |
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You're welcome Emmy. Glad I could help. I enjoy the challenge.
Livio, is the word "germano" for brother still being used today, or is it an older term? Not that my knowledge of Italian is extensive, but I have never heard of that word being used for "brother".
One side bonus of genealogy research is how much my Italian vocabulary is improving.
Thanks, Livio.
Mary
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liviomoreno V.I.P.
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Would appreciate some help with this document |
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Mary,
nowadays the word "germano" is rarely used.
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uantiti Explorer
Joined: Nov 28, 2008 Posts: 356 Location: Biella (Piedmont) and Venezia/Venice, Italy
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Would appreciate some help with this document |
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The word "fratello germano" or "sorella germana" (masculin/feminine) is nowaday a law term. In inheritance matters "brother-german" or "sister-german" is used to distinguish them from stepbrother/stepsister. I think the term is used in English too.
Ada
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Luca Translator
Joined: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 695 Location: Terni - Italy
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:10 am Post subject: Re: Would appreciate some help with this document |
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For what it is worth, this is the transcription (sorry, but i can't read the registrar's surname):
Numero d'ordine 15
L'anno 1859 e dì 3 del mese di luglio alle ore 10 avanti di noi Pietro Antonio Xxxx, xxx ed Ufficiale dello Stato Civile del Comune di Acquafondata, distretto di Sora, provincia di Terra di Lavoro, sono comparsi Michele de Filippis germano al defunto, di anni 71, di professione contadino regnicolo domiciliato in Acquafondata strada detta la Porta(!) e Raffaele de Filippis cugino al defunto, di anni 71, di professione proprietario regnicolo domiciliato anche in detto Comune e strada, i quali hanno dichiarato che nel giorno 2 del mese di luglio anno suddetto alle ore 11 è morto, nella casa del defunto, Domenico de Filippis, marito di Vittoria Pastore, nato in Acquafondata, di anni 69 di professione proprietario supplente(!) domiciliato in detto Comune, figlio del fu Giannantonio (short form for Giovanni Antonio) e della fu Maddalena Simeone
Luca
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