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Community Forums › They Came in Boats › Where do I begin? › Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria
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Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria
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Donato New Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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Yes, I have seen that record on Ancestry, but not sure if it is the same Francesco. Next week I will begin viewing the microfilms to try and find what year Amelia remarried in Plati. It is possible that Francesco died young in Pennsylvania.
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Donato New Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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Thankyou for deciphering the birth record for me!!!
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Biff83 V.I.P.
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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In doing some further checking, I do not think that the Francesco Donato on the Sons of Italy record was your g grandfather based on this naturalization record where he states he was born in Maida, wife Teresa, children who were born beginning in 1892.
interactive.ancestry.c...sePUB=true
Biff
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Donato New Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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Thankyou Biff. You are right. Going to view the microfilms again this afternoon. There are Thousands to scroll through so it could take me quite a while......
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Biff83 V.I.P.
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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If you need any help deciphering writing or have any other questions, just let me know.
Auguri,
Biff
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Donato New Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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In the town records for 1884 I found records for possible brothers and sisters of my ancestors but I cannot read any of them because the script is very fancy.
1883 and 1882 records are on their way from Italy.
Would you be willing to translate the records I found yesterday? Should I post them here?
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Biff83 V.I.P.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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Donato,
No problem. Just post the images of the birth acts on this thread and I'll give them a try.
Biff
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Donato New Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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How about this one?
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Donato New Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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And I think this is the same Elizabeth. {Had trouble fitting it all on the screen to save}
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Donato New Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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lwr half
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Biff83 V.I.P.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:39 pm Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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Definitely two different Elisabettas.
The Elisabetta on the 27 August 1903 marriage document is 27 (ventisette) so she would have been born about 1876. Her parents are Giuseppe and the deceased (fu) Francesca Garreffa.
The birth record for the other Elisabetta Gliozzi states that in the year 1884 on the third (tre) of May (Maggio) at sometime (can't make out the time), before someone (I can't make out the name) in the town hall appeared Michele Gliozzi, 33 (trentatre), a farm laborer (bracciale) and he declared that at 11:20 AM (antemeridiane undeci e venti) on the first (looks like primo) of the current month (corrente mese) in a house at Via Canale?, 11, from someone (I can't make out the mother's name) was born a child of the feminine sex that he presented and gaved the name of Elisabetta.
Biff
_________________ "There are only two lasting bequests we can give our children - one is roots, and the other, wings." -- Hodding S. Carter
"You live as long as you are remembered." -- Russian proverb
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Biff83 V.I.P.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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Donato,
I'm not sure you are aware but each year for birth, death, and marriage records usually will have an alphabetical index at the end of that year's records. Next to each name will be a number indicating the act number (numero). This should help cut down on your scrolling.
Italian records are basically a fill in the blanks forms which the mayor or someone designated in the town hall completed. Once you get a feel for the three types of forms (birth, death, marriage) and have a decent source which will help you translate dates, years, times, numbers, and occupations, it starts to become easier to extract information. I find deciphering the handwriting to be the most challenging aspect, but again as time goes on this also gets much easier.
Here are some online resources which should help you learn more about Italian records and their extraction.
Italian Record Extraction--an essential resource
familyhistory.byu.edu/...efault.htm
Videos on Italian Records
familysearch.org/learn...22Italy%22
Italian Occupations
freepages.genealogy.ro...ngocc.html
And as always, I'm willing to help in any way. Just let me know.
Biff
_________________ "There are only two lasting bequests we can give our children - one is roots, and the other, wings." -- Hodding S. Carter
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Donato New Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:23 am Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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Wow - thank you so very much Biff. That is wonderful information.
I'm not sure you are aware but each year for birth, death, and marriage records usually will have an alphabetical index at the end of that year's records. Next to each name will be a number indicating the act number (numero). This should help cut down on your scrolling.
Yes, most of the rolls did have these indexes which made the searching so much easier, but not all of them. Those rolls are on their way back home now, as I wait for the next batch to arrive.
Thankyou again!~
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Donato New Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:00 am Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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Today I think I have found the birth record for a great aunty but I cannot read the birth date or year.
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Donato New Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:05 am Post subject: Re: Donato/Monteleone Plati, reggio Calabria |
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Also found this on the same roll of film, but don't know what it says. Do you think it relates to my g-grandfather Francesco Donato?
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