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BillieDeKid
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 Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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Laura
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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Rita,
to determine the exact birth year it's necessary see the whole page....
The one you send me in PDF format is perfect.... do you have a copy of that to post here?
Per Luca,
se mi vuoi dare il tuo indirizzo e-mail ti mando l'allegato PDF che Rita mi ha spedito, comunque io ho desunto l'anno dall'atto precedente a quello di Alfio che riportava questo anno:
millesimo octingentesimo octingesimo quarto
Ma sarei felice se tu o Livio controllaste... 
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liviomoreno
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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Laura,
I sent you a PM with my email.
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BillieDeKid
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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Luca
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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Laura please translate.
A questo punto l'unica spiegazione sta nell'atto di battesimo di Agostino Sapienza (che forse Sapienza non è): essendo poco definito e di pessima qualità, quello che sembrerebbe il cognome oggetto della ricerca potrebbe essere, in realtà una cosa diversa (ad es. Rapisarda) e la madre pur chiamandosi Lucia probabilmente non è Distefano.
Se si riuscisse ad avere un'immagine migliore potremmo essere più sicuri, ma comunque la discendenza di Giuseppe dovrebbe essere la seguente (sarebbe interessante avere anche la foto di Eugenio):
1875 Domenica
18?? Vito
1880 December 25 Natalia (Mother Lucia ?)
1882 September 29 Giovanni (Mother Lucia Distefano ) then:
1884 May 10 Alfio (Mother Lucia Distefano )
1885 September 22 Maria (Mother Lucia Distefano )
1887 April 16 Rosa (Mother Lucia Distefano )
1890 April 22 Agata (Mother Lucia Distefano )
1891 December 24 Salvatore (Mother Lucia Distefano )
1893 April 19 Francesco (Mother Lucia Proietto)
1896 Eugenio
1899 July 23 Anna (Mother Lucia ?)
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BillieDeKid
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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BillieDeKid
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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Livio or Laura
Can you please tell Luca I do not have a birth act or baptism for Euginio. I looked on the IG forum and no image posted there.
I think Rita is getting the birth year from the ship's manifest.....Ellis Island.
Also, tried to clean the image of Agostino.
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Luca
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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Agostino......meglio?
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Not too much! The problem is the low definition (I hope it's the exact term) and not the clarity. Thank you alike.
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liviomoreno
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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As Luca was mentioning, this Agostino does not seem to be a Sapienza, the surname is something like Rapisarda...
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Luca
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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Livio or Laura
Can you please tell Luca ..... |
I'm not so good at write in English, but I can understand what you write (I hope...)
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BillieDeKid
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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Thank you Livio. And Luca, your english is better than my italian
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Tiger965
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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I found Eugenio's Registration Card which has his date of Birth and where he lived in Brooklyn, Kings,New York. I still have to find his Birth Document on the film.
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Tiger965
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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Luca
Quote "Agostino......meglio?
img143.imageshack.us/i...inoos0.jpg" When I was looking at this document I thought the Maria was a Sapienza from my family but this does not pertain to my family that I know of. .
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liviomoreno
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:23 am Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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Carole
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Translation Help |
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Don't beat yourself up over this Livio - we've all been there and done that at some time... 
All we can do is pray that when we do cause confusion it doesn't start a war!!! 
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